Episodes
21
July 4, 2025
S4E21: Give us a Desert Without Borders
A lyrical argument against border violence traces migrant deaths across the Sonoran Desert and asks listeners to imagine a borderland restored to wildlife, Indigenous communities and human freedom.
20
June 24, 2025
S4E20: You Can Help Save Public Lands from Privatization
Chris sounds the alarm over a Senate proposal to sell millions of acres of Bureau of Land Management and Forest Service land, explaining what privatization could cost Western communities and urging immediate action.
19
June 17, 2025
S4E19: Finding Nature's Refuge in Salt Lake Sprawl
Parker Lloyd tours the Nature Center at Pia Okwai, where Tracy Aviary and West Valley communities are restoring former industrial land as wildlife habitat and an environmental-justice gathering place.
Guest: Parker Lloyd
18
June 10, 2025
S4E18: Resilience & Resistance in Navajo Country
Diné leader Davina Smith explains Bears Ears as a living cultural landscape, the legacy of her grandmothers' resistance and the necessity of Indigenous leadership in protecting sacred lands.
Guest: Davina Smith
17
May 26, 2025
S4E17: The War Against The Greens, Updated
Journalist David Helvarg revisits his 1994 investigation The War Against the Greens and explains how the Wise Use movement's tactics evolved into today's attacks on environmentalists, public lands and democracy.
Guest: David Helvarg
16
May 19, 2025
S4E16: Ezra Klein's New Book Has an Abundance of Problems
Chris Clarke critiques Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson's Abundance, arguing that environmental review is being blamed for failures more accurately explained by economics, corporate power and poor project choices.
15
May 13, 2025
S4E15: The Fight to Save Lives on the U.S.-Mexico Border
Humane Borders chair Laurie Cantillo describes placing and maintaining life-saving water stations in the Sonoran Desert while confronting migrant deaths, militarization and disinformation at the U.S.–Mexico border.
Guest: Laurie Cantillo
14
May 6, 2025
S4E14: @WesternWaterGirl Gives Social Media a Reality Check
Teal Lehto, known online as Western Water Girl, explains Colorado River politics, prior appropriation, agricultural water use and how authentic social media storytelling can make water policy understandable.
Guest: Teal Lehto
13
April 29, 2025
S4E13: Yuck: The Wild, Weird History of Joshua Trees with Barret Baumgart
Author Barret Baumgart traces the strange cultural and natural history of Joshua trees, from early disgust and failed schemes to commercialize them to their modern role as icons of desert resistance.
Guest: Barret Baumgart
12
April 15, 2025
S4E12: We Need To Talk About "De-Extinction"
Chris challenges claims that genetically edited gray wolves amount to resurrected dire wolves, asking whether de-extinction can succeed without habitat, ecological relationships and learned animal culture.
11
April 8, 2025
S4E11: Beauty Meets Struggle: The Endangered Treasures of BLM Lands
Writer and photographer Josh Jackson discusses The Enduring Wild, his travels across California's BLM lands, the tension between exposure and protection, and threats from mining and agency cuts.
Guest: Joshua Jackson
10
April 1, 2025
S4E10: 3 Ways the Desert Improves Your Life
Three surprising examples show deserts protecting human health and climate: tortoise blood suppressing tick-borne bacteria, desert soils storing carbon, and desert pavement reducing harmful dust.